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The movie date would escalate, and we'd begin kissing our respective pillow boyfriends, and then finally dry-humping them. It was a crude simulation of what we were piecing together about sexuality, and we were most certainly not molesting each other by virtue of having a sexual exploration in the same room.

Little girls get sexually aroused too, but unlike men, who are able to tell stories of boners and masturbation publicly and with impunity, being a horny little girl is a dark and nasty secret that women have to carry around.

If my Barbie could talk, she'd have some stories to tell. Kids have huge imaginations, and once they start being exposed to a media full of sexuality, children begin to internalize and interpret what they see in the world around them.

That's incredibly normal, and insanely healthy. If we weren't able to absorb, process, and regurgitate information, ideas and emotions, how would society ever be educated, reflective, or even interesting?

Acting out sex with other props is art of a normal process not only for sexual discovery but for children interacting with the complex notions swirling around them on a daily basis.

I used to huddle with my girlfriends in the library and we'd read passages from the "naughty" parts of YA novels or look at pictures of genitals in medical books.

Again, this is all part of children figuring out the sex and body things that no one will talk to them about or hasn't thought yet to talk to them about.

It's not a perversion or anything strange or untoward. Little girls not only look at each others bits, some will, from time to time, be naked with their friends, and even try out kissing.

It doesn't mean they're lesbians or not lesbians or molesters or freaks. It means that they've found a comfortable place from which to try out some of the things they've heard about adults doing.

A lot of the time, it might not even be sexual. Growing up, I had many purely science based encounters with girl friends: what do your boobs look like?

Can I see? What do you think kissing feels like? Should we do it? For me, none of it was arousing not like my sweet, sweet pillow boyfriend , but it was interesting and certainly informative, which is another facet of little girls interacting with their sexualities.

Sexual discovery is part a natural and insatiable curiosity, but too often it's stifled by society's backwards ideas about what a girl should be and how she should be it.

Boys, or should I say, straight boys, are allowed to flourish sexually from whenever they begin noticing their penis gets hard from time-to-time, which basically means their whole lives.

Girls, on the other hand, are taught, whether overtly or by passive societal conventions, that there's something inherently wrong with being sexually aware.

So hopefully it was a bit of a breakthough and she will maybe think before she speaks next time. The whole clothes thing - at aged 8 DD doesn't have a clue or even care where it comes from - as long as its a skirt, has frills, is pink or flounces, she's all good And in fact we prefer the dresses from Best and Less She does know who Justin Bieber is but doesn't know any of his songs - she prefers ABBA.

I think that those girls parents must have discussed these other girls at home for the kids to say things like 'roadkill' or that they buy their clothes from Best and Less.

How would a kid even know that it isn't cool to buy your clothes from Best and Less. Their are some horrible mums out their who seem to still be stuck with that 'high school' mentality and are passing it on to their own girls.

I think you did the right thing for sure - there is noway I would let my girls hang out with those girls anymore. If it was one of my girls who said something like that and I am certain they WILL be nasty at some stage in their life I would be so ashamed and they would be in big trouble!

I think girls gang up and 'exclude' other girls simply because of they fear that if they don't then they may be the one who will be excluded.

I can't believe it is even an issue. It is really sad isn't it. Parents do have a lot to answer for! Kids placing so much value on clothes and accessories is just so wrong.

I will be aiming for my kids to dress like kids for as long as possible. I am so over this preteen thing getting younger and younger.

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Recommended Posts. Guest ballistic. Posted April 8, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites. If my DD spoke this way about other kids she would be in a lot of trouble trust me!

Dont belong in this section Guest Nurse Mummy. Guest tigerdog. Posted April 8, edited. Edited April 19, by OldMajor. Yep, girls can be SO nasty, even from a young age.

Have seen it with my own kids, nieces, other girls etc. Guest mummytomany. Posted April 9, Not normal. Posted April 9, edited.

My first thought was like Mrs Jessops, that they must have teen siblings. Sadly a lot of attitude and opinions does come from the parents.

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Sadly kids can be super nasty so can adults for that matter , but I don't think you overreacted at all. I think that you rreaction was a great opportunity to show your dd how inappropriate and mean those girls were being.

And from a person who was only ever dressed in cheap basic clothing no brands or anything it really did upset me when other girls my age would ask why I dont have nice clothes like they do.

So good on you for teaching your daughter how to treat people with respect. I don't belong here either and I know some lovely little girls that age, however I remember being teased as a child about silly things like hair etc, girls can be cruel, there was a show on last night either ABC or SBS I can't remember and it showed the differences between girl and boy reactions in a controlled experiment by a psych.

Girls excluded other girls even at very young ages, it is sad and I hope DD never has to go through it. This friend sounds like she could be the mother of one of the nasty girls!

With parents with this attitude, no wonder these children are growing up the way they are. I would say this behaviour is pretty normal but having said that, it's a sad indictment on society when the media, advertising and general materialistic attitudes are influencing parents to the extent they indulge children the way they do and create a monster in doing so.

They also seem to be the kids that are aware of what brand of car their parents drive, how much their parents make, what the 'cool' music artists are etc.

They can be quite vindictive and DD has come home upset a few times from school or parties saying that a few of the girls have made fun of X or Y etc because of what they were wearing, or how their hair was done.

Thankfully DD has several friends who are lovely kids I dont know if its normal or if our daughter is just very socially naive.

She doesnt even know who Justin Bieber is. DD couldnt give two hoots what clothes she has on or how her hair is done, so I think she feels a bit out of place sometimes.

She is generally clean and has decent clothes I can only imagine that they learn it at home or from watching shows that I wouldnt consider age-appropriate.

I dont think that the behaviour of the girls at the park is acceptable at all and would reinforce this with my children. Im sad to say though, that I dont think a lot of parents in our local area would share my views :S.

Thankyou so much, you are all making me feel as though there is hope for the human race after all lol. Glad I am not the only parent who thinks this way, and so glad there are other parents out there trying to raise their children with compassion, empathy and manners.

Who knows. But I consider you very lucky for getting so far before experiencing this. My DD is 4 and they carry on like this at her day care and going by the girls in my DS class at school 7yo they are x worse again by this age.

I asked my DD day care if it was normal and they said unfortunately so - just a thing with girls. Pretty much the schools take on it also.

So you have a whole lot of gob smacked parents disgusted by their kids behaviour and talking to them no end to absolutely no effect. So as to where they get it from???

Once when I was about 6 years old a similar aged girl who lived down the street from me approached me in the local park to play but before she could her mother screeched at her: "Get away from her, you'll get a disease!

Parents have a lot to answer for in their children's behaviour IMO. Two girls together, they can play nicely, add a 3rd girl, and 2 may turn onto the other one.

I have seen the sweetest girls get quite nasty. My youngest DD 7 is just starting to change to be like this. I saw that show on ABC last night, Nursemummy and what that survey showed was very correct.

Boys hit out, but girls do into a group and exclude others and it is horrible. I remember being the instigator of a group who did this, when I was at primary school and unfortunately, I didn't have a mother who would say something nice, so it comes from one generation to the next, or perhaps she didn't know about me.

Girls can be very devious at an early age. I think the solution, or one of them, would be to talk to your boys and girls and ask them to treat others nicely and not be nasty to other children, because it makes them unhappy.

That doesn't sound to me like something that an 8 or 9yo would come out with normally I can't even imagine my 12yo or her friends saying it - more likely a teenager or immature adult.

Do these girls have teenage siblings by any chance? I remember hearing about my cheap shoes and my fat tummy when I was six and seven.

It isn't nice or to be encouraged but I have no problem thinking is an unattractive but normal age-appropriate behavior.

Yes, I know at least one of them has on older sister. You could be right, and "roadkill" is not a term I would normally expect to hear from children of that age, as I said DD didn't even know what it meant.

Still, I would wash my teenagers mouth out with soap if she used that term also - Oh no, now I sound like my mother. I have an 8yo daughter.

From my experience, they get their values at this age from their parents. DD is 9 and some of the girls in her year are "horrible". There is one particular "ring leader" who stirs the pot all the time.

Thankfully dd has very little to do with her since she is not in her group of friends or her class. One of my friends dd has a lot of problems with this particular girl, she told others not to play with her as my friends dd was "not pretty enough".

I have girls aged 7 and 9 and have never come across anything like that OP. Maybe we live in a sheltered area but I have never ever come across this.

I have 5 and 7 year old girls and in both school and daycare I also have a 2 yr old I have never come across nastiness about clothes and looks nor have I heard of exclusions of fellow pupils.

If we are in the minority, then I am more then happy to continue in it. I would be horrified to think a year ot two would make a huge difference in this.

Well my daughter is 8, turning 9, and I'd be horrified if anything like that ever came out of her mouth! Whilst I only have boys of my own, I've been teaching for over 25 years and I work mainly with children between 10 and 12 years of age.

Unfortunately what you witnessed can be very common in girls this age and horrible things can come from seemingly lovely girls.

Fortunately it is only a stage for most of them although quite a number of them will go on to give their parents hell through the teenage years.

Even the name of the book perfectly captures how these girls can be gorgeous one moment and absolutely horrible the next.

It sounds as though your own daughter was smart enough not to join in this behaviour but I'd recommend the book to all parents as essential reading and tips on how to help your own children when they come across girls like this.

Ive got to say that my 8yrDD who has no older siblings says things like I dont want to be fat, I dont want to be friends with a fat person - she even told me if i was fat she wld not love me.

I asked my 5yr old boy if he wld love me if i was fat and he said he wld jump onmy tummy like a trampoline - he thought this was hysterical.

DD also strives to be pretty and hang out with pretty girls We as parents dont discuss such things - and like to think we have high standards for our kids - my mother is fat, my friends are overweight My DD also tells me that im the oldest in her class - she hates that, she wants me to blonde and young I was a nice girl at that age who also excluded other girls for ridiculous perceived differences, I was also excluded, I remember being excluded at a young age 6?

I think this is normal girl behavior unfortunately. I am going to read the book recommended by the PP to try and stop the cycle, i don't insult people or exclude others so I am hoping that DD wont be a perpetrator or a victim.

Ever since Kindy she has strived to be one of the "in crowd" and yes there is an in-crowd in kindy - I didn't believe it when my DS was in Kindy as he couldn't care less and he had his mates but a gf with a daughter was going through it at the time, 3 years later it was my turn with my DD Now that DD is 8 she has a few close friends and is finally, after 3 years at school finding her feet and even said to me "X cool girl who is in her class this year isn't really ver nice" Halleujiah a breakthrough I thought.

However I said to her that if X isn't nice then DD doesn't need to play with her as she has lots of other people to play with.

However DD has recently started saying quite nasty things to her younger sister just turned 5 and often making DD2 cry who admittedly is a drama queen.

I sat DD down the other day and explained to her that making people upset doesn't make her smart or funny and won't make other people think she is better, it just makes her look like a horrible person, and I know she's not a horrible person so please don't talk like that.

She then burst into tears and said she doesn't want to be horrible. So hopefully it was a bit of a breakthough and she will maybe think before she speaks next time.

The whole clothes thing - at aged 8 DD doesn't have a clue or even care where it comes from - as long as its a skirt, has frills, is pink or flounces, she's all good And in fact we prefer the dresses from Best and Less She does know who Justin Bieber is but doesn't know any of his songs - she prefers ABBA.

I think that those girls parents must have discussed these other girls at home for the kids to say things like 'roadkill' or that they buy their clothes from Best and Less.

How would a kid even know that it isn't cool to buy your clothes from Best and Less. Their are some horrible mums out their who seem to still be stuck with that 'high school' mentality and are passing it on to their own girls.

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